Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25606723-20160721141729/@comment-25754873-20160723144917

Dragonbiscuit wrote: (Read all of this it's pretty much the best argument in the history of the world) I'd like to point out. Heart on the lotr mod wiki attempted to argue that because Wikia hosted in California freedom of speech applies. (It doesn't but if we apply her logic) then her kick of me for disagreeing, then calling it disrespect. Also let me point this out Heart. I don't like Red or his sister either. Especially his sister. But I don't go around attempting to start a world wide ban on them from every wiki and server. And as for you calling me Tybereous' follower. I've had problems with your superiority complex and thought that you can talk your way out of everything for months now. If Aur is rigging this, then I would like to speak with him in pm on the wiki chat here. If he isn't then I would say, listen to the communities wishes. And that's simple math 19-4=15. 15 more want you demoted then they do to stay. That's a rather big number for a small community as said (I forget who) so Heart didn't you suggest on ToA we elected and demoted staff based on the communities votes? Well the community is voting you for demotion, is the idea of voting staff not ok now that it doesn't work in your favor? And Heart if Melron hasn't broken that many rules if any IDK why should she leave? Because she backs her brother against you because you have a constant interest in making sure he can't be staff or anything of importance on any wiki or server you run into him OR her on? And Heart, since you're British and you prefer the UK's law, how is pushing for further argument not disruptive and how is your constant attacks on Mairon not hate speech? Heart you also seem to attack Tybereous a lot for someone who hasn't broken any rules also. Seems relatively hateful as well. And let's not forget the entire situation that you attacked Imrahil for the use of a Confederate Flag. And if you want to try and claim that the laws of California affect the wiki, then that'd be attacking his right to freedom of speech, and if you want to go further into it, seems rather innapropriate and I believe you'd say... immature to go after his personal life, specifically his relationships. I could also point out you say that people have a right to express themselves right? Well Imrahil is expressing himself by using the Confederate Flag. I could also mention on the lotr mod wiki, you argued with the entire Admin team for a long time because you refused to give up an argument that needed to stop and even Mevans voted you demoted if I remember correctly. If what I hear is true only Ithilion didn't vote you down, so it doesn't seem very... appropriate for a staff member to behave like this. I don't believe anyone thinks it is. I could bring up you have a habit of kicking people for disagreeing and calling it disrespectful which I believe is abuse is it not? Heart, doesn'r removing this violate his right to free speach?