Thread:MrHobit1234/@comment-26210095-20160810154913/@comment-25754873-20160810163023

Well to be honest at first my opinion of Umbar(when I was reading the books) is that they enslaved the Near Haradhrim and they ruled over Harad. Now know they are powerful but their is evidence they held some dominion over the Near Haradhrim, perhaps you should include that? As Harondor was contested between the corsairs and the Ship Kings.