Board Thread:Middle Earth Roleplays/@comment-25344655-20160227035125/@comment-25344655-20160229210853

Patrick.vtap wrote: We can do without the telescope honestly... It would probably be invented anyways. Feanor intented the telescope by the way. I belive there was a reference to it in the Silm, I will get it if I can. Anyways, the arts of the Eldar were taught to the Numenoreans, and considering they had guns and steam ships, they would have probably have been invented, and it is unlikely that the Umbarians would have forgotten something like that that aided sea-travel Where is the proof they had steam ships.....Or guns, for that matter. It specifically said ALL technology from numenor was lost. You cant possibly assume you had cannons in the third age.