Thread:Auraestus/@comment-26210095-20160228225328/@comment-25344655-20160228234236

Patrick.vtap wrote: It is not independent, but very powerful. Umbar and the Clan are more like brothers, honestly.

Also, it is only fair that I get some naval advantages.

Submarines and Torpedoes were in the civil war. You do get advantages. They werent in the civil war, torpedoes were invented in 1866, the civil war ended in 1865.