Board Thread:Middle Earth Roleplays/@comment-27168578-20151223182430/@comment-27718380-20151226203732

ChazmanianDevil wrote: But Saruman didn't make Gandalf in pain with his mind. He smashed him against stuff, which put him in pain. Also Saruman's thing against Gandalf were aided by magic staffs. As well as the fact they were Maiar... Aye. You'd have to be on a level with Eonwë to do that stuff physically, and probably more powerful than Galadriel but malicious to do it with your mind. However, the mind power is an elven one - thus why Galadriel was stronger than a extremely powerful Maia - Sauron - in mental force and able to see his thoughts. Nenya helped, but not a whole lot.