Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26210095-20151117214943

(This is not directed at you individualy, just at one user in particular, and I just feel like this needs to go out there)

Ok. So a lot of people (read: one person in particular) has been criticizing Umbar, on a complete non-factual basis. I am not saying all forms of constructed, criticism when it comes to lore strictly mentioned in Cannon is bad, just when some people just use the argument "Gondor is mentioned more, is on more maps, and is good, while Umbar absolutely must be a faction of uncivilized Barberians that get sqashed like a bug by Gondor. This is not only ILLOGICAL, but a argument that has 0 evidence behind it. Yes, Gondor was powerful and great and all. But Umbar likely had many colonies that weren't on the map. This is just saying that whatever is not included in Tolkien it completely wrong. Umbar is NOT a barbaric civilization if pirates, "just because they are evil". Although they did have pirates, and raiders, it does not mean that they are a weak or uncivilized faction! Umbar was the main settlement of the Kings Men, a far stronger and larger catch of Numenoreans. It therefore makes sense that more of them survived the Akallabeth. Also, there are laws restricting mixing of blood, so it makes sense that Umbar would have a very large population of Black Numenoreans.

*Patrick Out* 