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Elestan Larcalaite wrote: Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

Elestan Larcalaite wrote:

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ChazmanianDevil wrote:

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Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote: I know you gave a load of options, but I'd still like to put out there that magic is stupendously powerful as a fantasy weapon and hands down the best. Anything that breaks the laws of physics has power beyond limits (quite literally) and indeed, would function the best as a weapon. But it would also function as a weapon of peace, a weapon of reparation, and so on, which to me is so much more important. Don't think magic breaks the laws of physics jsut adds to them. At least my favorite magic systems. You can't "add to" the laws of physics. That's quite literally breaking them. You adhere, or you don't. I don't mind changing them, but that's still realistically breaking them. That's assuming the laws of physics we know are the complete laws of physics. The way I see it we have a good idea of some laws of physics, and the more we learn some may be changed or added. It's assuming the laws of physics we know are the best we can understand currently of the completed laws of physics. Best we can understand currently. Magic could be a whole new part of physics we can't currently comprehend. But it won't be. How do you know? Likelihood. You don't know then. And what about the existence of the universe? I fail to see your point.

Also what is with this god awful new formatting for quoting? You don't know it either, but it's pointless to assume otherwise.

Quoting just got weird, yes. Alright you still can't say it's impossible that magic is some part of physics we can't yet understand. It seems not just possible but likely that we have nowhere near full comprehension of physics, considering the new discoverys made every day. And in exactly the same way, religion isn't impossible, just not even a worthwhile consideration. My only pont is that you originally stated magic breaks the laws of physics, which can makes it infinitely powerful. I'm saying it seems more likely that if it does exist it doesn't break the laws of physics, only adds to them in a way we donut understand. And the idea that we don't comprehend certain rules of the universe seems not only posssible but extremely probable. Though an "if" isn't exactly worth contemplating - as while, maybe, amusing, as a time-waster, it is exactly that. I'm not saying we understand entirely the laws of the universe, Chaz, I think that's quite easy to understand, but to try and link those two entirely unlinked things - laws of the universe being complete, and magic - is quite the stretch. Perhaps a stretch. But it is not breaking the laws of the universe as you put it. It still has rules, it still has boundaries, and therefore is not infinitely powerful. It has rules defined by the mental ability of the wielder, or not, depending upon which. However, you could still do incredibly stupid and crazy things, which go entirely against what you consider "rules". Not really, since those stupid and crash things still must follow their own rules. Which contain so many loopholes it's crazy. Irrelevant, the topic of discussion is the systems, not specific details. Pick a specific system, and I'll show you how overpowered it can be to use properly. Still, this is about the concepts and ideal balanced use of them Yet, the concept is overpowered, and the balancing has always failed from my experience.