Thread:Aramirtheranger/@comment-27097330-20160729224639/@comment-27097330-20160813195720

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote: ChazmanianDevil wrote: I'm not saying it's necessarily a coverup, only that it's possible the elves were mistaken. And besides, the Silmarillion was very much an unfinished work. Tolkien said he was unhappy with many parts of his lore, one of which was the "changing of the world" at the downfall of Numenor. Unhappy, but didn't provide an alternative. Also, seeing how the Elves seemed to have some contact with the Valar, and it would be almost impossible for people to misdocument things like how men cannot travel the Straight Path and come to a different place entirely. Not sure what you mean by that bold part.

And is it ever stated the elves have actual contact with the Valar? Certainly the Nolodr didn't in the first age, and I'm not sure that changed later on.