Thread:Argali1/@comment-26863727-20151124044146/@comment-26863727-20151125051555

And I think that Atmora has

+2 for training(100 years of training isn't greater than about 13 years of training that brutal. Some recruits die)

+1.5 in weapons because they are pretty good quality(though less than Dwarven) and are quite a bit more mass-producable(you can just mold, temper, and sharpen Atmoran bronze weapons, you don't have to do any forging)

+1 for numerical superiority

+10 for thinking outside the box. They'll dig a tunnel in their siege camp, support it with wood, and when they dig under the walls they'll fill it with straw and oil to set it alight and destroy the supports, making a hole in the wall. Takes a long time and is expensive, but it is very effective. They'll split up their force and attack from multiple directions, or find a weak spot in the enemy formation and formulate a strategy to exploit it. The weakest link is where the chain will break.