Thread:Patrick.vtap/@comment-27097330-20160905154111/@comment-27097330-20160906000620

Dark dwarves 2 wrote: Pat did you not see minas making a plan to give you what you want? He gave a fair and reasonable offer that would work out for everyone.

So what you can't have the huge empire you want just be happy they are not doing what they did to KT.

Not one person should make the map or any official wiki lore it should be the community as a whole. This is a thread it discuss my opinions, and Pat isn't a dictator of the map just the one making the physical copy. This is not a thread to discuss Umbar. There are enough thread's about that. Everyone who came here for that reason feel free to leave.