Thread:Auraestus/@comment-26535281-20160321004329/@comment-25344655-20160321211937

Edacnik wrote:

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

Patrick.vtap wrote: I don't have the Meneltarma anymore, that was just stupid tbh

Heart. Umbar was a naval power. DA was good, yeah, but no way a feifdom can crush an empire. Umbar had a navy. Compared to everyone else, that counted as having power. I've said this many times before, and Umbar wasn't an empire. Dol Amroth could easily crush Umbar's army. Nor were the Avari, or the White Mountain dwarves, nor a few others, but you know... We are not a dwarven nation.