Thread:Patrick.vtap/@comment-27097330-20170118043111/@comment-27097330-20170119003331

Patrick.vtap wrote: ChazmanianDevil wrote:

Codebreaker 2100 wrote:

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

Codebreaker 2100 wrote: Yeah. Renly had all the kindness, but none of the experience or fighting skill. Robert had all the fighting skill, but sucks at commanding and definitely isn't kind. Stannis has all the experience and commanding skill, but never gets into an actual fight and of course, isn't kind. Renly is rather like Tommen so far as I'm concerned. Good friend, bad king. Well unless you guys know something I don't we never actually got to see him as king, so the whole thing about him being incompetent seems a lot like either propaganda or people just doubting him. Renly was wasting away money with tourneys, and was a pretty vain and superficial guy in general. He lacks the true iron and experience he has to be a king. This is pretty much my opinion ofhim, summed up by Stannis --->

What has Renly ever done to earn a throne? He sits in council and jests with  Littlefinger, and at tourneys he dons his splendid suit of armor and allows himself to be knocked off his horse by a better man. That is the sum of my brother Renly, who thinks he ought to be king

...and Oleana

He knew how to dress and he knew how to smile and he knew how to bathe, and somehow he got the notion that this made him fit to be king.\

...and Donal Noye's opinion

Robert was the true steel. Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends. And Renly, that one, he's copper, bright and shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day. Renly was keeping up morale. The tourney's were an effective way of keeping his massive army happy while motivating them to stay in shape. He knew he had the upper hand, and he refused to give his enemies any sign of fear. And come on, it worked. Most of them thought their was no way of defeating him, obviously including Stannis because he had to resort to treachery.

Donal Noye's biased, he only sees physical power, honesty, and truth as worthy qualities, so it's understandable he would be disappointed by Renly. And Stannis would be a terrible king.