Thread:Patrick.vtap/@comment-26184570-20160912010158/@comment-27097330-20160912012233

Argali1 wrote: Chaz's idea won't work, because Umbar wasn't the way he described it by the time of LOTR. Mînbar is basically the most glorious state of the old Umbaran empire, which is now gone, as we know. It was barely described...