Board Thread:Custom Lore Development/@comment-25344655-20160525185438/@comment-26347028-20160529005539

Tybereous wrote:

You have no basis for that assumption. And remember, it took the entirety of the first, second, and third ages to make it what it is today. It's not like a bunch of people just "popped up".

There is absolutely NOTHING said about them in lore. I suggest you quote lore if you're going to say that, because I've never read anything to that effect.

Again, your opinion. Not your faction, not your rules. A huge assumption.

It's a DAMNED FANTASY UNIVERSE! Reality doesn't always apply, and there are no laws of reality hindering me here anyways!

That's a red herring fallacy. If you're going to argue, do it right.

Because that's what they were CREATED to do! Read the lore.

Physics are not even related to this conversation. Honestly, heart. No basis? In the same way as the flayed man has no secrets, you can easily see how to break someone. Admittedly, it is possible to recover with outside help. But there would be no outside help in the scenario presented.

There is enough said about Utumno, and suggested about the origins of Orcs, to garner that. It would take far too long to quote it, however, in any meaningful fashion.

That is sure as hell not just opinion. It's impossible for them to realistically get over the massive amounts of PTSD etc. that they had in the first place, let alone form a society. That is no assumption.

So pink flying velociraptors are allowed now, and I can use them? Thanks for that info. The laws of reality hinder you in the ways I've already expressed, it's just impossible to happen in the way you say it does.

A fallacy? So far as I'm aware, it's true. It's proving a point about your supposed "creative liscence" and where the line needs to be drawn. I draw the line at realism, as is evident. Therefore, I do indeed have a point.

Your lore makes absolutely no sense. They were turned into fighting organisms that were expendable. That is what Orcs do, is it not? Melkor wouldn't waste time with spies. If he didn't after, he wouldn't now.

Physics are certainly related to this issue, in that you have defenestrated realism. Physics is linked to realism, thus to this.