Board Thread:Character Discussion Board/@comment-26210095-20151119224450/@comment-26453572-20151120124915

Speganomad wrote: There is no way Umbar got any land in harad they would have been crushed by hordes of haradrim Mainly the Cerinrim and Tauredain, and the Near Haradrim he apparently got land from. And I don't think that the Tauredain would be his allies. The Tauredain hate the Moredain, so they hate Mordor, and since they hate these two factions they hate the Near Haradrim, and just going based off of that they probably hate Umbar, too.