Thread:Argali1/@comment-27097330-20170117021257/@comment-27097330-20170121194341

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ChazmanianDevil wrote: ENFP. Maybe ENFJ. Not sure about T vs A. INPT-T Okay, so it appears I need practice. What are you basing your guesses off of? Well basically everyone on here is an N, because pretty much no S types roleplay. After that it's really hard. Since we're online E v I is basically impossible. J vs P usually the bets indicator is how you deal with your lore, which in hind sight, I should have seen that with Indom. kewl I've gotten pretty good with irl friends and fictional characters. Daenerys. ENFJ. The people on the site did that one for me. XD Her reaction towards Drogo, her brother, and the Dothraki in general, say otherwise.

She was a beggar, but she left the begging to her brother. Not sure what you mean. She's really not an "E". More so when you consider she doesn't fit into any of the stereotypes for that. The easiest way to tell an E from an I is that an E enjoys social activity and is energized by it, while an I is energized by breaks and time alone. Contrary to the stereotype it's not really social vs antisocial. Plenty of social people are Is, and Daenerys, though withdrawn is in E. Remmeber that Viserys kept her hidden, and she stayed away from anyone for fear of punishment or Robert's assassins. However, when she entered the Khalasar and had people to speak with and socialize with she became a far happier person. She's often seen asking Jorah or Doreah to dine with her, which also implies an E trait. She's asking specific close friends to be close to her. That's an indicator of the opposite.

She doesn't run around thinking that she's doing all this to enjoy the company she gets. She's doing this because all her life her brother told her that the crown was theirs alone, and that's all she knows. She also feels some clear injustices need to be righted.

Varys didn't really hide them. They toured around Essos while local lords (or equivalent) would host them for a while, so long as the proposition of invading Westeros remained attractive. The moment their dreams shattered, the beggar King needed a new host, and managed to earn the name.

I think her constant attraction to the Red Door and Willem Darry really show just how much she wants secuirity, peace, and quiet. Not business. How does that imply the opposite?

Of course she's not doing everything for company, but she's generally far happier when she can interact with people. And those second two don't at all make her introverted. I'm not really sure how the first one relates, and the second one, ENFJs are notoriously altruistic to a fault.

Assuming you mean Viserys. :P But again, one form of being hidden is the same as another. She toured Essos yes, but she had to bottle everything up. She closed herself off, and Viserys used her as a bargaining chip.

I have no idea what you're talking about at all. Remember I haven't finished the books. We're talking about implications here. If you look for a certain pattern, you'll find it. However, I was pointing out how introverted people generally have a few close friends rather than lots of spread out attention.

The only time she has been genuinely happy is with Drogo, and when she has been able to revel in her achievements. Extroversion generally means you'll go out and talk to the people. She doesn't, she sends a few men in it she does want a revolt, and she orders the army around. She doesn't fight, and on the odd occasion she does give a speech in front of a city it's always a demand of surrender, or something to help her take it.

…so? She's still clearly introverted.

It's her picture of home in her head, a small house in Braavos with a kind knight (Willem Darry) who looked after her and Viserys for many years. Then he grew sick at one point, all their servants took what they could and kicked Daenerys and Viserys out, and forced them to wander around Essos.

Look, it's easy to see patterns. The trick is to discern between which is the stronger pattern. Usually. But Robb is also clearly extroverted and he only has a few close friends. Same with Tyrion. The fact that seems guarded and only talks to a few people is because she's in a leadership position, and quite honestly doesn't have too many people to talk to.

She was naturally happy with Drogo because she loved him, but she was also happy before that just being around people and being free.

Just go to ENFJ on the site, then strengths and weaknesses, and you'll see how perfectly they fit her.

She obviously craves that home because he was a father like figure, so yes, naturally she's going to want that. Doesn't make her introverted because she wishes for a family. I find it funny how you claim things are clear, yet they are anything but. Robb I would not claim to know, yet also I would claim that you cannot prove an absolute.

Few close friends…

Because that random website you found on the internet doesn't generalise or stereotype at all. When they say "strengths and weaknesses" it doesn't really mean much at all.

He wasn't like a father. He was always rather deferent to Viserys. A father would protect her.

She grew up without a father, and learned about her father later on. Much to her detriment. I never claimed they were clear.

You were giving all the credit to Drogo for her happiness, but I was pointing out that is certainly not the only reason. Or even the primary one.

If it's just a random, unreliable, website on the internet then why do you care?

"Father-like figure." He represented stability.

I originally guessed an INFJ as well, but I also have a good deal of trust in the people who made the system's ability to class people in their own system.

At that time, and certainly with hindsight on Dany's part, he was the greatest reason by a large margin.

It's a website that you shouldn't put too much faith into reading into things. The whole system isn't terrible, and it works as classification, but it doesn't work at predicting humans.

Which doesn't make him like a father.

They didn't make the system. I believe they were extremely close to those who did, and adapted it into their own version. Yet, the whole thing is about reading into data that applies differently to every person - innacurate by default. Okay, so obviously you took that from somewhere but I actually have no idea where...

Not predicting, but classification it does.

She needed stability at the time, and after he was gone she had no one like that but Viserys so he would, in her mind, be a father figure.

Well yes, they adapted it. But it's one of many similar personality classifications, and all of them spring from the same stuff. I'm aware they can make mistakes based on the obvious but I still tend to trust their judgement unless I have a reason otherwise. You have given me a reason otherwise. Plus after reviewing them in aspect she really is more of an I. You wrote it.

Yeah, so don't use its predicting stuff to classify things…

Viserys was, yes, more of the paternal figure. However, Willem Darry was just a kind knight who kept them safe. He didn't necessarily bring stability, and the representation of stability is shown to be the house.

Well, you can probably tell why I like her. Obviously, I mean where?

It's not predicting though. There's a correlation between type and strengths and weaknesses. There are plenty of examples.

Viserys was an abusive brother. Not a father figure. yes the house was also important, but that represented a stable home, like Darry represented a father figure.

Yep. Well actually that clicked as soon as you said you were INFJ. About two messages or so up from the picture, at the start.

Generally weak correlations that only really work as a correlation when you perfectly fit into the box created for you. Humans don't, as a rule, so it's wrong to suggest that they are those things just because they fit the description of the attributed things.

She trusted Viserys, to some extent she loved him. She expected to marry him, as I'm sure you're aware, and she feared him. A father like Craster is a horrible father (if you don't understand the analogy don't ask and it won't be spoilers) but a father nonetheless.

It contains interesting people, to be sure :P Okay, I still can't find it, so I'll just assume you're right.

But if is a major point towards them being that type.

She still thought of her I'm as a brother/lover, not a father. And I understand the analogy, I've passed that part. Or the first time they meet him anyway.

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