Thread:Auraestus/@comment-26535281-20160321004329/@comment-26347028-20160321215937

Edacnik wrote: Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote: Patrick.vtap wrote: A single city? You mean : a naval empire. Umbar is a city. Evidence in lore for anything more? Umbar isn't as big as Patrick says it is, but it's more than a city; or Gondor wouldn't be so worried about it's naval attacks. Gondor rarely had a navy of its own, admittedly it had a tiny little defensive force. But like the Shield Islands of Westeros, they weren't exactly worth a lot. They just couldn't mobilise a defence force fast enough, is what scared them. Umbar would be gone before they arrived.