Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26210095-20151117214943/@comment-26453572-20151119013223

I'm not saying Umbar is weak, I'm saying Umbar isn't super strong, and that they had some damages to deal with at the time of the WOTR. I do, however, think people are confusing Gondor with Anorien, the soldiers we see in the mod and the movies. Anorien is its own province, and most likely couldn't beat Umbar on its own. All provinces of Gondor should also be reckoned with, and the RK definitely should be reckoned with.