Board Thread:Custom Lore Development/@comment-25344655-20161105164312/@comment-26210095-20161106140400

Auraestus wrote: Patrick.vtap wrote: Auraestus wrote: Patrick.vtap wrote: Argali1 wrote: I feel like the Union was more interesting when it was more focused on specifically Dwarves in the White Mountains. Yep. Also, it's impractial to have them in the Harad Mountains ; how do the two communicate if the sea / land lines are in control of Umbar? I think it should be a white mountain faction tbh. Umbar does not have total control of the seas, just FYI, and the same could be said of you having colonies on the opposite end of the continent. But it controls the seaways practicaly right next to it's main city, ja? Well, those are colonies, not the other half of my nation, and yes Umbar has a near stranglehold on Southern Belegaer trade. We have strong naval supremacy on our own shores, also both are basically self sufficiant, we grow our own food in the southern areas, and we trade with the locals. We can forge our own weapons and armor. etc. etc. It doesn't need a connection to the capital to be this sufficiant. They were colonies for a long time, only became states after generations of union rule. Yeah, of course you have naval supremacy on your own shores, but you most certainly do not on the hgih seas, and the Umbarean coastline, which, may I remind you, is right above the Harad Mountains, and therefore in your way.

Well, you treat it as the other half of your nation. Which it isn't, it's a self-sufficient large colony, with little to no connection to the motherland. Also, if the Harad Mountains were assailed, there is little to no way for the Northern Dwarves to defend the southern half. Doing so would either involve sending a large flotilla of ships through hostile, foreign waters with a superior navy, or traversing a scortching desert for hundreds of miles only to encounter the extremely hostile and Umbar-aligned Haradrim, not to mention the Mahud. It's illogical.