Thread:Patrick.vtap/@comment-27097330-20160904202547/@comment-26347028-20160905065737

Patrick.vtap wrote: "Gondor had a bad navy"

May I mention the Ship-Kings of Gondor? And if Umbar was able to hold  on for so long agaist Umbar, they clearly aren't to be pushed around. They didn't, though. The moment the ship-Kings made their ships, Umbar got thrashed.