Thread:Argali1/@comment-26184570-20160125144003/@comment-26295802-20160126021844

ChazmanianDevil wrote:

High Prince Imrahil wrote:

Argali1 wrote: "Violent Culture?" The Middle East was incredibly stable, and was a beautiful example for the world, and then the Crusades fucked everything up! Wow. ..

A: the crusades were a thousand years ago and

B: I will openly debate the misassumption that the Muslims were wonderful peace-loving people that the crusaders crushed for no reason A: The Roman Empire was longer than that and look at the effect it still has.

B: They weren't at all peace-loving fun people, but the crusaders were ridiculously cruel to them. I hold that there was redicules cruelty on both sides. You must remember that these were not the kind peace-loving Fatimids that were good and kind to Christain pilgrims: these were the Seljuk Turks that were very cruel to the Christain pilgrims, promting the crusade in the first place