User blog comment:Draugluin the werewolf/EU referendum/@comment-26347028-20160624075142/@comment-26347028-20160625161334

Here we go again with the denial... My point on human rights is that there are many more flaws in them than you'd think, and there are a whole lot of lawyers dedicated to that specific set of laws for that exact reason. But even after all our moaning, there has been no change. Surely, if they're so bad and the EU wants to help they'd change? Seeing how the EU covers so many areas, "EU things" is actually one heck of a lot. Withdrawal of subsidies, particularly, would be harmful. And I certainly wouldn't put it past them. When I said that, I was referring to what the majority of MEPs voted on. Because no, Nigel Farage isn't the only Eurosceptic MEP. Clearly, if we're so massively powerful, we'd have the right to get rid of the anti-democratic parts of the EU. Oh, hang on, we can't. This is clearly shown through the last 72 things we voted on, which Draug is trying to hide.

There have been quite a few times we've attempted to do something, but it's been stemmed before doing it because the EU throw in some legislation to thwart it. Presumably you're not taking that into account; if it's about half done and the EU stops it there and then? There've been a lot more than you reference. And more argumentum ad hominem, hmm? Alright, prove they did, and I'll accept it.

In that statement you literally say "I didn't use one of them! I used two rolled into one!" Which isn't actually an argument at all. It's both argumentum ad populum, and argumentum ab auctoriate. That's the fact you're saying "look at all these x" and "they're true because of their authority and background" although technically background is another one entirely. How do you know they know what they're talking about? Beyond the fact it's coming from authority, the truth is you probably don't. You're attempting to say they're reasonable because of their background, which is a complete lie. The Catholic Church seemed reasonable, but it liked to say the Earth was flat and the Sun orbited it. Were they right?