Board Thread:Custom Lore Development/@comment-25344655-20160525185438/@comment-26347028-20160528140309

Draugluin the werewolf wrote: I don't intend to get into a full scale argument over this but I disagree with all three of your arguments (although elves, as a fictional people who might have a different psyche to a human are somewhat of a grey area)

1. did ugg the caveman stay primitive? he was an animal

2. are you joking? you're seriously trying to say on a wiki full of people with one problem or another that "broken" people don't repair? there are plenty of people who've gone through trauma, depression or other dificulties which could have "broken" them who would disagree 1. Was "Ugg the Caveman" broken beyond repair?

2. I'm saying that if you've been utterly tortured for thousands of years on end you aren't going to get over it. Orcs themselves were extremely weak without a leader, so to have the ones who were tortured themselves would accentuate this a hundredfold at least. The people you refer to aren't "broken". Depression, etc. doesn't break you. What Melkor did, though, broke them. It broke their spirits, and their minds. To break a man truly is to break his spirit, and then you are hardly a man to most people.